Nick Masons original 250 GTO with 3 vents on front wings,
(Would love to get a look at a real one so if you see this Nick please email me Thanks).
Above is me with that latest progress of the body which we took to Beaulieu where it generated quite a lot of interest.
Can anyone help with some of the finer details on the body like does the bonnet and boot opening have a Water drain gutter, as looking at some of the pice online it is not clear ???.
Also the front wing side 2 or 3 vents are they wired or just a small 10 or 12 mm flange at 90 Degrees ??.
Any info on the tubelar framework supporting the bodywork to the Chassis ??.
Any help with locating and parts greatly appreciated.
While browsing the net I came accross a Company run by Stuart Brown www.3dengineers.co.uk who can Scan full size bodys etc, wish I had found him before we started on our Jig, but I have emailed him to see if he can help with any of the fineer details of the Bodyshell, and I am sure it will help someone else to know where to get things scanned.
My Wanted List
Cheap Maserati 4200 6 speed manual ( Spider is best as it has a shorter wheel base) but Coupe is fine, it can be damaged, writeoff etc, as long as the main items I want are usable.
GTO Windscreen, Lights front and rear, Spot lights, Headlamp Covers and chrome trim, Rear and Door perspex screens, Door & Boot locks and handles, Fuel Filler cap, Steering Wheel, Dash & Instruments, Handbrake lever, Gear Lever, Seats, Indicator Switch, Bonnet Air Scoops, Chassis blue print ?? anything, Set of Boranni Wire wheels and hubs ??,or anything that you have that might help, Thanks.
Hi, Welcome to my Ferrari 250 GTO build, I and like most Ferrari fans have always loved the 250 GTO but with the prices as they are today very few of us can actually afford one, so next best thing is to build one one using some more modern running gear, so what I have decided is to use most of the mechanicals from the Maserati 4200, as the Maserati has a lovely Ferrari designed engine with approx 400 Bhp and a lovely transaxle which gives an almost ideal weight distrubition, and all are mounted on subframes so all suspension etc is all ready done for us, the only problem is the actual track as the Maserati is approx 150 mm (6 inches) wider than GTO so we will have to try and get around this ??? as last thing we want to do is widen the body ? but it might come to that, if anyone has the X,Yand Z Datums of the Wishbones pickup points on the subframes that would be very helpful, as trying to measure from a car is not so easy, and if I have to move my wishbone mounting points inwards to alter track I want to be abe to maintain the OE Geometery by working it out on my Susprog software.
To start with we have got some Body blueprints which we have had blown up to full size so that we can make a full size Body Jig to make the Aly body on, my friend Steve McFarlane will be doing this and I will be helping.
Once I have got a suitable Maserati I will remove engine, Transaxle and both subframes complete with all suspension, I will remove all the air intake system from the Engine and convert to Throttle Bodies and use a Megasquirt 3 V3X ECU to run it which will be a lot easier than trying to use the OE ECU, the MS3X will let me run sequential fuel and spark, so I can use the OE Injectors and COP's, and should also be able to run Duel Lamda and Knock sensors, Launch control, and flat shift, which will be great to control the power especially if we can keep the weight under 900 Kg ?.
When I have got my Subframes etc all refurbished then I will start to make my oval tube chassis to join them together trying at the same time to follow the original GTO's layout of the main center section, that is where a Chassis blueprint/drawing would come in very handy to make it look right, and also if I am unable to use the Maserati subframes to narrow the track then I will have to make the complete chassis ??.
We have just got all the Steel to make the body Jig and 4 casters to move it about, and I have ordered a front screen ( expensive) but we got to have the correct one for the Jig, I will take some pics once we have something to show ??.
Tha Windscreen has arrived, so we will start on the Body Jig next week.
Here is the frame on which the Body Jig will be mounted on, ( my friend Steve Mcfarlane pictured with tape ) it will have casters so it can be moved about, ( Img 1 )
We had to stop as we found a problem with out Full size drawing ?? the wheelbase was 36 mm too short so we are having Graham Owens ( who is a great help) redo the Drawings and also darken the lines so they are easier to see from a distance.
We got the new modified Blueprint drawings back from Graham so they are now correct at the 2400mm wheel base shows the new Blueprint, shows another shot of the front and main center line so you can see the basic shape, and this week we have got quite a bit done, mainly the front grill surround and the front undertray, pic 2 shows Steve Mcfarlane whose shop we are in ( and you can see in the background the quality of his work, pic 3 shows the front of the jig with the grill surround and lower undertray, pic 5 shows me trying to look as if I know what I am doing ??.
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Here are the latest pics showing the progress, we have the Aly Screen pattern made from the New Screen and started to make the Metal one to attach to the Jig, also you can see the Bonnet Frame in place and the middle of wing to front hoops so starting to look like a car ??, Metal screen frame now attached, and Bonnet Central Bulge also done and some wing profile hoops also attached.
Been busy and just added some more pics and it is starting to look like a GTO ? we got most of the front wings and doors done and hardest of all the Headlamp surrounds, next is roof and rear end.
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Here are a couple of more pics as you can see the Jig is almost complete, it just looks like a real GTO, I am just amazed we got it all done so quickely, Steve is just such an amazing craftsman he has a great eye for detail and as I was helping half the time I just did not know what I was making or doing, but as it was welded on to the Jig you could see it taking shape before your eyes, I can not wait to start on the Aly panels, so watch this space ??.
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Great news the Jig is all finished, and I am so pleased with the result so again all Thanks to Steve mcfarlane and of course for letting me asist from start to finish it is not everyday you get a chance to be involved hands on in building your life times dream car the Ferrari 250 GTO, and ok this is just the start but what a start even the Jig looks like a work of art, and again many thanks also must go to Graham Owens for all his effort in enlarging our original Blueprints, so here is a pic of the finished Product let me know what you think, I cannot wait to start on the Alley panels, and as soon as we get some panels made I will put up some pics, and Thanks for all the encouragement from you so far, Regards Eddie Walsh
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Aluminium is ordered and hopefully will be delivered to Steves soon and then we can get started on the Body !!! I just cannot wait to get started, I will get some pics up as soon as we have some lovely aly panels to show, it is just amazing to think that we can turn flat sheets of aly into such a beautyful shapely body !!.
Here is what we and mainly me have been waiting for !!!! at last we are making some panels, Steve has started on the front end and I am doing the rear wings with a lot of his help as I can realistically only get them to approx half done and then Steve will do the final stages, but I am realy enjoying helping to Build the Beautyfull Aly Body for my very own Ferrari 250 GTO !!! now how many people can say that, even Nick Mason cant as he just shelled out a fortune for his, so anyway great progress for the first week and hope you like the pics ??, cant wait for next week ??.
Image 16 shows Steve starting on the very first Panel which is part of the front wing, Image 17 shows me starting on the front portion of the l/h rear wing, image 18 ,19 and 20 show Steves front end progress.
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We have not done any more panels as Steve is busy doing another Customers Bentley, but hopefully we will get back on mine next week ??, Eddie.
Sorry for the delay, but good news we will be back on the Body Shell next week so look forward so more interesting pics ??? Eddie.
Me and Steve got back on the GTO yesterday and today and got quite a few more panels done, now we have all the roof and the 2 sided panels that are just above the rear wings, I have a pic,and also the right front lower corner which in the pic shows Steve wheeling, and we have just started on the front lower panel roud the grill opening this will be in 2 parts, and Steve has also got the rear lower section of the front wings almost done.
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Hi Sorry for the delay in getting the latest news and pics of our progress, I have been to Ireland for a few weeks holiday and Steve has been to Paris for a short break as well, so this week end we are taking the 250 GTO Jig and with all of the Panels we have made to Beaulieu as it is a great place to show off this type of thing as people come from all over the World to buy and sell cars and parts and we might get some interest in our project, and meet people who have already done a simlar project and can offer advice and mabe some parts etc, so if you are going to Beaulieu on the 2nd 3rd or 4th September then do come along for a chat or just to take some pics, we are in the Red Field stand no 671, here are a couple of latest pics.
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Hi sorry for the delay in updating as I have been busy doing other things, the Body Shell has not had much more done to it since last updated, but I have been working on the Chassis and got quite a lot done , the bottom rails with all the Mounting points for the 308 wishbones have been completed front and rear, the front rails had to be cut and modified as the engine is quite wide at the bottom so needed the rails further appart and the suspension/wishbones needed the rails to be closer together to maintain the narrow track ?? so that was a major job, but it is done now and all spotwelded, and I have also got some top rails with mounting points for wishbones temporary in position and currently trying to work out the positions for the Steering rack and anti-roll bar at front, and also rear anti-roll bar, also on the front top wishbones once position is finalised I will tilt them so we can generate some anti-dive geometry which may help in the handling ??, also all my wishbone pickups are adjustable which is very good thing so will be easy to set car up and alter settings at will, I have also shortened the Torque tube by 700mm between engine and Transaxle
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Steve says we can get back on the Body Shell now very soon so hopefully in the next week or so, cannot wait as it has been so long and was beginning to think we would never get back on to finish it so great news.
In the meantime I have been working on the Transaxle converting it from (FI automatic) to a manual stick shift which is progressing very well, I have done a temporary mockup and I can sellect all the gears, so now I am waiting for the return of the Torque Tube from my local engineer who is chopping another 50mm from it and then completely welding the flange back on and skimming to true it up as I need that as that is where my gearlever mechanism will be mounted.
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I will also have to make new Engine and gearbox mounting Brackets and choose some different Mountings ??.
I have removed the Exhust manifolds to see if they can be swapped around from left to right which they can so that will position the outlets further forward to give me more room in the footwell for pedals etc ??.